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Friday,
April
26,
2002
The
House
met
at
10
a.m.Seine
River
Bridge
Construction
Mr.
Jack
Reimer
(Southdale):
Mr.
Speaker,
the
other
night
a
large
number
of
residents
of
south
St.
Vital
gathered
to
express
their
opposition
to
a
proposed
bridge
crossing
the
Seine
River
to
a
joint
residential
development
between
the
Doer
government
and
a
local
developer.
The
Member
for
St.
Vital
(Ms.
Allan),
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Government,
stated
at
the
meeting,
and
I
quote:
"The
Province
is
on
the
residents'
side."
I
would
like
to
ask
the
Minister
of
Housing
then,
as
a
partner
in
this
development:
Has
he
instructed
the
developer
not
to
proceed
with
this
bridge?
Hon.
Tim
Sale
(Minister
of
Family
Services
and
Housing):
I
am
delighted
to
answer
the
question
on
the
part
of
the
former
Minister
of
Housing
whose
government
entered
into
the
agreement
with
Ladco
in
1989
and
contributed
to
that
partnership
Manitoba
Housing
lands
which
were
the
subject
of
the
first
phase
of
the
development,
contributed
that
land
without
any
particular
plans
for
the
affordability
of
housing
and
had
simply
contributed
the
land.
Now
in
regard
to
his
question
for
a
bridge,
the
former
minister
might
remember
that
the
City
of
Winnipeg
sites
its
bridges,
its
interceptor
sewers,
its
main
connector
roads,
25
to
50
years
in
advance.
The
City
of
Winnipeg
identified
the
crossing
to
which
the
former
minister
refers.
They
identified
that
at
least
15
years
ago,
and
they
instructed
the
developer
to
acquire
access
to
protect
that
crossing,
and
as
late
as
February
18
of
this
year,
in
a
meeting
with
Save
Our
Seine
with
the
City
of
Winnipeg
and
with
representatives
of
the
developer,
at
which
I
was
not
present,
the
City
of
Winnipeg
confirmed
the
location
of
the
bridge.
Mr.
Reimer:
I
did
not
have
my
earpiece
in,
but
I
did
not
hear
an
answer
to
that
question.
Maybe
you
heard
it,
Mr.
Speaker.
But
I
will
ask
the
question:
Did
he,
as
a
partner
in
the
development-and
I
appreciate
the
praise
that
he
gives
to
this
government
in
our
foresight
of
providing
housing
in
the
southeast
area
of
Winnipeg,
because
it
was
something
that
we
were
very
proud
of,
they
are
continuing
with
that
partnership.
They
are
a
partner.
As
a
partner,
has
he
been
in
contact
with
the
developer
stating
the
Government's
position,
as
outlined
by
the
Member
for
St.
Vital
(Ms.
Allan),
that
they
are
opposed
to
the
bridge
at
that
location?
Simple
question,
simple
answer,
Mr.
Minister.
Mr.
Sale:
It
is
interesting.
I
think
the
member
opposite
was
implying
that
he
thinks
that
this
Government
should
rip
up
agreements
that
have
been
entered
into
in
good
faith.
I
rather
think
that
is
something
that
some
governments
in
Canada
have
done
but
this
Government
does
not
do
that
sort
of
thing.
We
honour
agreements.
In
regard
to
the
location
of
the
bridge,
I
will
say
again
for
him,
and
hope
he
does
have
his
earpiece
in
this
time:
The
siting
of
the
bridge
is
a
City
of
Winnipeg
decision
made
at
least
15
years
ago,
confirmed
numbers
of
times
in
writing
to
the
developer
and
to
the
Save
Our
Seine
citizens.
If
the
City
chooses
to
change
the
location
of
the
crossing
of
the
Seine
River
in
order
to
comply
with
their
housing
requirements
for
development
to
have
two
moves
of
egress
from
each
subdivision,
the
City
can
make
that
decision.
There
will
be
consequences
for
everybody
because
they
gave
different
instructions
to
the
developer
in
the
past.
So
it
is
a
City
decision.
We
await
their
decision
when
the
development
plan
is
registered.
Mr.
Reimer:
Then
I
can
assume
from
that
answer
that
the
Member
for
St.
Vital
was
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Government
and
that
the
Government
is
not
on
the
residents'
side
on
this.
That
is
the
implication
I
got
from
the
answer.
The
minister
is
now
stating
that
the-
Mr.
Speaker:
Order.
Point
of
Order
Hon.
Gord
Mackintosh
(Government
House
Leader):
I
was
just
wondering,
Mr.
Speaker,
if
this
House
could
extract
a
question
from
this
honourable
member?
Mr.
Speaker:
On
the
point
of
order
raised
by
the
honourable
Government
House
Leader,
he
does
have
a
point
of
order.
Beauchesne
Citation
409(2)
advises
that
a
supplementary
question
should
not
require
a
preamble.
I
ask
the
honourable
member
to
please
put
his
question.
Mr.
Reimer:
Mr.
Speaker,
I
will
ask
my
question
of
the
Minister
of
Housing
then.
Is
the
City
under
negotiation?
Will
the
minister
confirm?It
is
hard
to
get
a
question
out
because
I
never
get
an
answer,
but
I
will
ask
the
minister:
Is
the
minister
part
of
any
negotiations
with
the
City
that
is
now
looking
at
buying
out
the
portion
of
the
forest
that
the
intended
bridge
was
going
through?
I
understand
that
the
City
is
negotiating
with
the
developer.
As
a
partner
in
the
development,
is
the
Province
willing
to
share
the
cost
of
buying
that
forest
from
the
developer?
Mr.
Sale:
I
will
have
to
choose,
Mr.
Speaker,
which
of
the
number
of
questions
I
try
to
respond
to.
I
will
say
that
from
November
2000,
when
the
developer
first
approached
the
City
in
regard
to
le
Bois
des
esprits,
the
whole
intention
of
the
developer
and
the
partnership
is
to
preserve
the
88
acres
of
the
woodland,
which
are
beautiful.
I
am
sure
the
former
minister
has
walked
through
that
area;
I
have.
I
have
seen
the
area.
It
is
an
absolutely
lovely
river-bottom
forest
and
associated
upper
areas
that
could
be
developed,
but
should
not
be
developed.
That
has
been
our
policy
from
the
beginning.
The
partnership
is
an
agreement
on
that.We
have
made
numbers
of
offers
to
the
City
in
regard
to
ways
in
which
they
could
acquire
the
entire
property
without
undue
cost.
We
are
still
in
negotiations
with
the
City
to
agree
upon
a
price.
I
believe
we
are
fairly
close
to
that
agreement,
and
our
intention
is
to
preserve
the
entire
forest
for
the
enjoyment
of
future
citizens
and
the
current
citizens
of
the
city
of
Winnipeg.
We
are
good
environmental
citizens,
Mr.
Speaker.
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